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LAIKH VASH: ENAS MYTHOS
« on: January 23, 2006, 05:13:11 pm »

Epeidi exw vare8ei ton teleytaio enamisi xrono na akouw gia ayth thn perivoiti laiki vasi pou einai i moni lysi gia ta provlimata tou paok klp klp exw na pw merika apla pragmata.
-Me to isxyon nomiko plaisio den prokeitai na ginei pote laiki vasi. Kai o nomos den prokeitai na allaksei pote. Kai min mou pei kaneis oti o orfanos eixe pei oti an graftoun polla meli ston erasitexni 8a allaksei o nomos, ligi sovarotita. An allaksei o nomos, ousiastika xanei tin isxy tou o megalometoxos tis omadas. Kai ok, ston paok tis metoxes tis exei enas tipotas, alla yparxoun kai kati vardinogianides kai kati kokalaioi pou den nomizw na to epitrepsoun ayto.
-Milame gia mazikes egrafes ston as. 100% mazi sas, alla den mou lete, me ta tmimata tou erasitexni exei skopo na asxoli8ei kaneis sovara apo aytous pou exoun graftei/ 8a graftoun ston as? H mipws mas noiazei mono i mpala? Lete gia tin barcelona kai to montelo pou isxyei ekei, alla egw vlepw oti kai ta 4 tmimata pou exei i barcelona petane (podosfairo, basket, handball, roller hockey). Edw pou yparxoun kai 17 tmimata ston erasitexni kai pou einai ligo-polu stin anypolipsia ti 8a ginei me ayta? Giati egw apo oso exw dei kaneis den exei milisei gia alla tmimata, mono gia to podosfairo.
-Epeidi ena apo ta nea slogan einai ta "esy eisai o paok, gine melos dwse telos" klp, den mou lete, apo pote skopos tou fila8lou/opadou einai na dioikei tin omada tou? Giati egw tosa xronia kserw oti kyrios skopos tou opadou einai na vrisketai konta stin omada tou kai na tin ypostirizei. Ennoeitai oti o opados den einai avoulos kai ennoeitai oti prepei na pernei 8esi se oti afora tin omada, alla ws ekei. Se kamia periptwsi den prepei na anamignietai me ta dioikitika, alliws pavei na einai opados, ginetai paragontas 
me oti ayto synepagetai. Kai akoma, apo pou ki ws pou protarxiko melima enos apo tous meaglyterous kai istorikoterous syndesmous tou paok einai edw kai 1,5 xrono oi eggrafes melwn ston as kai mono? Dld aytos einai o logos yparksis enos s.f., i epidiwksi na dioikisei ton paok? Giati egw 8ymamai oti oi syndesmoi idry8ikan gia kalyteri organwsi tou kosmou stin eksedra, gia tis ekdromes sta ektos kai oxi gia allous logous.
-Ta megala kefalia tou metwpou laikis vasis ti exoun na epeidiksoun ws proswpika kator8wmata? O zouraris apo pou ki ws pou asxoleitai me to olo zitima? O tsarouxas apo pote egine dimosiografos kai den to kserame? Mipws, lew mipws, i anameiksi tous den einai anidiotelis, alla aposkopoun se proswpiko ofelos? Giati egw vlepw oti apo perysi o zouraris ka8e treis kai ligo emfanizetai kai stin et3 kai petaei ta va8istoxasta sxolia tou, enw o tsarouxas -o poios?- mas egine ksafnika sevastos dimosiografos.
-An parola ayta ginei i laiki vasi, vazei o kosmos ta lefta tou kai ola kilane omala kai oneiremena, kai ksafnika allazei ek neou  o nomos kai katargeitai i laiki vasi tote ti ginetai? Menoume me to pouli sto xeri kai den peirazei, wraia itan oso kratise e? Ti/poios mporei ayti ti stigmi na eggii8ei oti mporei ayto to montelo na dieksax8ei omala? Kai an stravwsei i douleia, poios 8a logodotisei se osous valane ta lefta tous? O zouraris? Den nomizw....
Genika i oli ayti prospa8eia pou ginetai mou fainetai oti einai poly fasaria gia to tipota kai den mporei na apoferei tpt kalo. An 8eloun na ginei kati kalo, tote as graftoun meli ston as aytoi oi opoioi mporoun kai prepei na graftoun -giati den nomizw oti einai sovaro na graftei melos ston as kapoios katw twn 35 xwris monimi douleia, i kapoios pou i enasxolisi tou me ton paok stamata stous titlous ton efimeridwn kai ta radia-, atoma koinis empistosinis apo olous, wste na yparxei ena sovaro kai anexartito elegtiko organo se pae-kae (ayti giati tin ksexname?) alla ws ekei. Kai na vlepete panta me epifilaktikotita to ka8e ti, eidika olous osous ksafnika 8imi8ikan oti einai paok -me to azimiwto vevaia.
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Re: LAIKH VASH: ENAS MYTHOS
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2006, 06:44:18 pm »

Lipon, irthe i ora na sou apantiso file mou. Kai epeidi mpikes ston kopo kai egrapses ena megalo arthro gia na peis tin gnomi sou,to ektimo poly, kai sou apanto analitika ena-ena. Tha ithela na antalaksoume apopseis edo gia na mporeso na sou metadoso kapia pragmata pou pisteuo se mperdepsan kai se ekanan arnitiko.

As arxiso me "quote" se kapia simeia sou...

1.
-Me to isxyon nomiko plaisio den prokeitai na ginei pote laiki vasi. Kai o nomos den prokeitai na allaksei pote. Kai min mou pei kaneis oti o orfanos eixe pei oti an graftoun polla meli ston erasitexni 8a allaksei o nomos, ligi sovarotita. An allaksei o nomos, ousiastika xanei tin isxy tou o megalometoxos tis omadas. Kai ok, ston paok tismetoxes tis exei enas tipotas, alla yparxoun kai kati vardinogianides kai kati kokalaioi pou den nomizw na to epitrepsoun ayto.

H apantisi einai eukoli giati profanos exeis mperdeytei se ayto to simeio. O nomos ayti ti stigmi anagkazei tis anonimes athlitikes eteries na iparxoun me tin morfi tis metoxopoiisis gia na einai energes. Ayto pou tha alaksei einai "na dinete i dinatotita stis PAE na mporoun na dialeksoun ton tropo litourgia tous, Metoxikotita H' Laiki Vasi."
Eksalou, i Laiki Vasi den simenei oti to timoni tis omadas to exei o laos, alla oti o Laos exei tin Dynami na vazei sto timoni tis omadas opion psifizei, pou simenei oti opoiosdipote epixirimatias thelei na ginei proedros tha prepei na mas pisei gia to ti tha kanei kai ti oxi.. Ayto pistepse me simferei kai ton kokkali kai ton vardinogiani, idika otan exeis 70.000 kai 80.000 meli na se stirizoun pantou kai pantote.

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Edw pou yparxoun kai 17 tmimata ston erasitexni kai pou einai ligo-polu stin anypolipsia ti 8a ginei me ayta? Giati egw apo oso exw dei kaneis den exei milisei gia alla tmimata, mono gia to podosfairo.

Nomizo eisai ligo viastikos file mou. Ola ta tmimata pou einai kato apo ton A.S tha ofelithoun apo to sistima tis Laikis Vasis. Kai an tora i simasia pou dinete einai mideniki fantasou otan tha iparxoun anthropoi pou tha psifizonte gia na douleuoun gia ayta ta tmimata kai otan den kanoun kala tin doulia tous na psifizontai aloi.
O protos mas stoxos einai na exoume polla meli mexri to poly tin epomeni 3etia pou tha exoume nees ekloges (meta apo aytes tou kalokeriou). Tote tha mporoun osoi exoun toulaxiston 1 xrono simetoxis na psifisoun. Na psifisoun opion theloun. Akoma kai na valoun oi idioi psifodeltio. Tote, an o A.S alaksei xeria se epixirimaties pou theloun na doulepsoun pragmatika, tote tha exoume alages se ena-ena ta tmimata, me arxi to Podosfero, to basket, to volei, kai ola ta ipolipa...

3.
Epeidi ena apo ta nea slogan einai ta "esy eisai o paok, gine melos dwse telos" klp, den mou lete, apo pote skopos tou fila8lou/opadou einai na dioikei tin omada tou? Giati egw tosa xronia kserw oti kyrios skopos tou opadou einai na vrisketai konta stin omada tou kai na tin ypostirizei. Ennoeitai oti o opados den einai avoulos kai ennoeitai oti prepei na pernei 8esi se oti afora tin omada, alla ws ekei. Se kamia periptwsi den prepei na anamignietai me ta dioikitika, alliws pavei na einai opados,

Edo exeis ena mono dikeo: Skopos tou opadou einai na vriskete konta stin omada tou. An gia esena ayto simenei mono na dineis ta 20 eyro kai na vlepeis podosfero pou vrizeis kai mizeriazeis, na min eyxaristiese mpala, na se simperiferonte san axristo pelati, na min exeis toualetes, na xrostaei i omada, kai telos na pesei i omada sou stin 4 katigoria logo tis anikanotitas kapion, tote pao paso..
Oi 100.000 filoi tis barcelona omos pou einai meli kai asxolounte me tin omada tous perisotero apo to na vlepoun ena mats den einai vlakes.. Kai mi mou peis oti asxoloume me oneira, giati to oneiro mou den einai na exo 100.000 meli, alla thelo na exo 10.000 kai na vlepo psila.. Ayto toulaxiston to dikeoume.
Edo na sou po oti exeis ena tromero lathos. To na mporo na psifizo pion thelo gia proedro tis omadas mou simenei oti thelo na dioiko ego?? Oxi fisika. Apla thelo EGO na perno to risko na dialego ependiti kai otan autos apotixi na fteo MONO EGO, kai oxi to kratos h' i dietisia..

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Kai akoma, apo pou ki ws pou protarxiko melima enos apo tous meaglyterous kai istorikoterous syndesmous tou paok einai edw kai 1,5 xrono oi eggrafes melwn ston as kai mono? Dld aytos einai o logos yparksis enos s.f., i epidiwksi na dioikisei ton paok? Giati egw 8ymamai oti oi syndesmoi idry8ikan gia kalyteri organwsi tou kosmou stin eksedra, gia tis ekdromes sta ektos kai oxi gia allous logous.

Den ksero ti ilikia exeis file mou alla pistepse me exeis mperdeytei oson afora tous sindesmous. Paleotera, mporei o sindesmos na min energouse stin praksi gia ta diikitika tis omados, alla tote an kati pigene strava ekanes ena sialitirio, ekanes ena ntou, ta ekanes gialia karfia, ekeges kai kanena aytokinito proedrou, kai tote o anikanos proedros ekane tin papia... Tora ayta exoun perasei. H epoxi tis kotronas einai over. Tora iparxei i morfosi, o politikos logos, ta epixirimata, to internet, eksipnoi tropoi na mporeseis na exeis ta idia apotelesmata xoris na eisai paranomos kai kafros. Enas apo aytous tous logous odigisan tous sindesmous na mpoun kai na energisoun. GIATI AN ENAS A.S DEN EINAI GEMATO KOSMO, KAI PSIFIZOUN SE ENA DIOIKHTIKO SIMVOULIO MONO 50 ATOMA GIA TA KAFTA THEMATA TIS OMADAS TOTE O PAOK THA KATASTRAFEI. Pleon h agora einai pngmeni, oi epixiriseis kleinoun, oi ependites koumpononte. Mono oi megaloi epivionoun kai oi mikroi pethenoun.
Prepei na dialeksoume aderfe pou theloume ton paok.
Ton theloume mia megali istoriki omada pou pleon tha pezei 4 katigoria? Exo polles istorikes teties omades na sou anafero, isos oxi tou megethous tou paok alla kati analogo stin eparxia..
H LSYH EINAI MIA, GINE MELOS,DOSE TELOS.

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a megala kefalia tou metwpou laikis vasis ti exoun na epeidiksoun ws proswpika kator8wmata? O zouraris apo pou ki ws pou asxoleitai me to olo zitima? O tsarouxas apo pote egine dimosiografos kai den to kserame? Mipws, lew mipws, i anameiksi tous den einai anidiotelis, alla aposkopoun se proswpiko ofelos? Giati egw vlepw oti apo perysi o zouraris ka8e treis kai ligo emfanizetai kai stin et3 kai petaei ta va8istoxasta sxolia tou, enw o tsarouxas -o poios?- mas egine ksafnika sevastos dimosiografos.

Apo ayto pou mou les katalaveno oti malon den exeis parastei se kamia ekdilosi tis Laikis Vasis.. An erxosouna tha katalavenes.
To metopo laikis vasis den einai i laiki vasi. Einai to METOPO. Diladi oi protes energies, oi mprostarides, pou tha apoferoun auto pou oloi theloume: Dimokratiki, politimi, energi simetoxi tou aploi paoksi stin epilogi tou Proedrou tou Paok.
To paoksidiliki to diko mou mporeis kalista na to amfisvitiseis esy.
Kai to paoksidiliki to diko sou mpoto na to amfisvitiso ego.
Giati kai oi dio mas eimaste tora anonimoi. Ayto einai eukolo omos. Ta atoma pou aneferes einai gnostoi, kai tous kseroume kapoioi apo poly poly poly paleotera aposo nomizo fenete na anafereis esy file mou.
Kai se roto ego. Giati den diloneis ESY sto psifodeltio otan ginei LAIKG VASH o paok? Etsi tha katalaveis oti ESY exeis ti dinami pou exei o opoiosdipote.
Gia na arxisei omos i prospathia tis laikis vasis prepei na energopoiithoun KOSMOS-POLITEIA-PAOK. Mporeis kalista esy kai ego na kanoume ayti tin arxi, alla fovame oti epeidi eimaste agnostoi ston epixirimatiko kai politiko kosmo tha argisoume na to petixoume. Eipa tha argisoume, oxi oti tha apotixoume. E loipon kapoiooi anthropoi pou exoun tin anagnorisimotita mporoun na to petixoun grigora.
To na amfisviteis ton enan kai ton allon den einai logiki ayti. Einai paralogia tou anideou, i eukoli lisi, to laspoma. Kai ego mporo na amfisvitiso esena kai esy emena, to eipame. Ta apotelesmata mono tha diksoun...

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An parola ayta ginei i laiki vasi, vazei o kosmos ta lefta tou kai ola kilane omala kai oneiremena, kai ksafnika allazei ek neou  o nomos kai katargeitai i laiki vasi tote ti ginetai? Menoume me to pouli sto xeri kai den peirazei, wraia itan oso kratise e? Ti/poios mporei ayti ti stigmi na eggii8ei oti mporei ayto to montelo na dieksax8ei omala? Kai an stravwsei i douleia, poios 8a logodotisei se osous valane ta lefta tous?

Tora me rotas poly genika kai pisteuo oti i oli dispistia sou, pou den ksero apo pou pigazei, se vazei se adieksoda. Giati mono ayto dixnei i erotisi sou. Diladi na se rotiso ego,an ksafnika alaksei o nomos kai epitrepete na ginonte fonoi tote ti tha ginoun oi dikigoroi? tha pezoun to pouli tous?  E oxi file mou, nomizo den ksereis ti simenei nomothetiko sistima. Otan enas nomos alazei kai leei MPOREIS NA EXEIS THN EPILOGI TI EIDOUS DIOIKHSH THELEIS tote simenei exeis dinatotita na kaneis oti thes. Eksalou, kaneis ena allo lathos. Ta lefta pou tha dinei to melos tou A.S den pane stin pae paok, alla ston a.s genika. Kai me ta lefta ayta exeis kapia pleonektimata apo ton allo ton filathlo pou paei sto gipedo xoris na einai melos. Exeis ekptosi sta eisitiria, exeis kouponia gia estiatoria cinema ktl, exeis ekptoseis stin boutik ktl ktl ktl kai dekades ala..
Ara to melos tou A.S exei kai kapia kinitra, den dinei apla ta lefta tou kai meta kathete kai ta kleei...

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Genika i oli ayti prospa8eia pou ginetai mou fainetai oti einai poly fasaria gia to tipota kai den mporei na apoferei tpt kalo. An 8eloun na ginei kati kalo, tote as graftoun meli ston as aytoi oi opoioi mporoun kai prepei na graftoun -giati den nomizw oti einai sovaro na graftei melos ston as kapoios katw twn 35 xwris monimi douleia

Poly fasaria gia to tipota.... Eisai klasikos neoellinas aderfe mou. Goustareis tin isixia sou, tin zestasia tou spitiou sou, den thes fasaries... An to idio elegan kai osoi exoun kanei agones kai riksan idrota gia auti tin omada tote o paok tha itan sti thesi tou pierikou. Giati ksafnika den genithike i omada PAOK me tin varia fanela.. xtistike ayto. kai xtistike apo ton lao kai apo anthropous pou eixan orama sto timoni tou paok. An esy thes goumeno kai mpatatoudi kai opoion erxete klevei kai feygei tote katse, arakse, kai pane sto epomeno matsaki stin toumpa... A, kai pou eisai, min ksexaseis to pasatempo... (den paei prosopika ayto alla se olous osous exoun tetia apopsi)


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Re: LAIKH VASH: ENAS MYTHOS
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2006, 02:08:47 am »

Apantisi stin apantisi:
-Den pisteyw oti yparxei opoiadipote pae -i an 8es megalometoxos pae- stin ellada pou na 8elei na alaksei o nomos. Ayti ti stigmi an exei tis metoxes tis omadas einai o gamaw kai kanei ousiastika oti goustarei xwris na ton elegxei kaneis. Kai atoma pou stirizoun tous megalometoxous, siwpira i oxi, panta yparxoun kai sini8ws einai kai perisotera apo osous krazoun, ton mpatatoudi px stin arxi oi ligoi pou ton ekrazan apo nwris -i 8yra 4 an 8umamai kala eixe vgalei anakoinwsi to 98 enantion tou- tous evrizan oloi oi alloi, kai mono otan i katastasi den pigaine allo -to 2003, meta pou efyge o bajevic- oloi ton krazane -alla kai ayto sxetiko einai, yparxi kai i apopsi akoma kai twra oti o batatoudis sou pire 2 kypela....
-Egw pantws den mporw na psifisw poios einai o kataliloteros gia to tmima tzounto tou paok, giati den kserw kan poios asxoleitai me ayto to tmima, kai to idio nomizw isxyei gia tous perisoterous-an oxi olous. Opote mia maziki egrafi melwn me ton tropo me ton opoio ayti proo8eitai -ousiastika na parei o laos tin pae- den vlepw pws 8a boi8isei ayta ta tmimata, amfivalw malista an 8a asxoli8ei pote kaneis me ayta.
-Min sigrineis anomia pragmata. I barcelona einai gia tin katalonia kati pou kamia alli omada ston kosmo pleon den mporei na ginei, opws kai i katalonia den exei antistoixo stin ellada. Kai to na milas gia 100000 meli einai sti sfera tis fantasias kai stin ellada kaneis den 8a to kataferei ayto -milaw gia energa meli- alla kai stous kairous pou zoume nomizeis oti einai eykolo na vreis 5-10 xiliades atoma pou na mporoun na asxoli8oun kai na exoun ti dia8esi na dwsoun xrono/lefta gia kati to opoio den 8a apodwsei amesa allla makropro8esma? Kai min ksexnas oti o pli8ismos tis katalonias einai polaplasios tis makedonias-8rakis (perioxes opou fantazomai oti 8a kini8ei kyriws to metwpo laikis vasis gia egrafi melwn).A, kai ta teleytaia 15 xronia den nomizw gia tis poreies sou na fteei to kratos, i diaitisia, i a8ina i otidipote allo....
-Xmmmmmmmmm, to amaksi tou kasimati an 8imamai kala to 2003 den to kapsame? H poreia sto ypourgeio ma-8ra to kalokairi tis idias xronias den egine? Ayta ta fernw ws paradeigmata gia tis antidraseis pou les, asxeta an symfwnw mazi sou oti den prepei na ftaseis se tetoio simeio antidrasis. Kai ta silalitiria den ediwksan kanenan, o voulinos efyge mono otan eide meta ta epeisodia me tin aek oti den travouse allo i douleia -eixe proigi8ei o apokleismos stin eyrwpi alla kai ka8imerina kinigita sta magazia tou kai alla polla.... Kai ksanalew oti den mporw na xonepsw o istorikoteros syndesmos na 8ewrei kyrio 8ema tin egrafi melwn, otan i kerkida den exei kamia organwsi kai ekdromes pleon bgazei 2-3 to xrono.
-Diladi oi twrinoi protergates pisteyeis oti den 8eloun na kerdisoun kati apo ola ayta? Den to nomizw... Eksalou stis ekloges tou as pisteyeis oti ontws 8a psifizetai o pio ikanos i mipws oi 2-3 isxires paratakseis pou 8a sximatistoun 8a proo8isoun tous dikous tous kai tous allous 8a tous fane laxano? Kai min mou peis oti ayta einia ypo8etika, i istoria ayto mas dixnei oti ginotan, ginetai kai 8a ginetai
-Kai se ayto pou les, an vgei enas me psifous 100-0 kai meta pei sas grafw sta arxidia mou, pairnw tis metoxes spiti mou kai epilegw na kratisw tis metoxes ti ginetai? Giati an den kanw la8os me tin psifo sou tou paraxwreis kai tis metoxes. Mporeis na sigoureyteis oti den yparxei periptwsi kati tetoio na simvei?
-To na dineis agwnes oi opoioi den odigoun pou8ena den deixnei tipota. Idrwta exisan aytoi pou extisan tin toumpa epeidi to orama itan xeiropiasto, ayta pou leme twra den einai. Kai ksanalew, an 8es kane kinisi na graftoun ston as atoma sovara kai koinis empistosinis wste na mporeis na exeis enan ka8aro kai aneksartito as pou 8a einai elegtis se pae-kae.
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Re: LAIKH VASH: ENAS MYTHOS
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2006, 09:50:02 pm »


-Kai se ayto pou les, an vgei enas me psifous 100-0 kai meta pei sas grafw sta arxidia mou, pairnw tis metoxes spiti mou kai epilegw na kratisw tis metoxes ti ginetai? Giati an den kanw la8os me tin psifo sou tou paraxwreis kai tis metoxes. Mporeis na sigoureyteis oti den yparxei periptwsi kati tetoio na simvei?

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Re: LAIKH VASH: ENAS MYTHOS
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2006, 06:20:06 pm »

Aderfe antikratos4 den mporo na katalavo pio kolima exeis faei kai eisai toso arnitikos kata tis laikis vasis. Kai eno oloi, organomenoi kai mi, episimoi, anepisimoi, politikoi paragontes, topikoi foreis, olos o kosmos, leei oti i laiki vasi einai diskoli vevea alla einai to pio ygies kommati dioikisis pou mporei na iparxei, den ktalaveno giati esy eisai toso arnitikos... Oi alloi einai lamogia oloi? Oloi emeis pou theloume diladi na exoume meros sta koina tis omadas mas? oloi emeis, ilektrologoi, mixanikoi, panepistimiakoi, ergazomenoi, oloi emeis oi paoksides pou exoume tis oikogenies mas kai tis doulies mas kai exoume kai tin trela mas me ton paok, oloi emeis loipon eimaste oi xazoi kai oi arostoi, pou theloume na katastrepsoume tin omada?
Anikse ligo tis idees sou kai koita ti ginete gyro sou. Mporo na sou aparithmiso 30 omades, apo megales mexri erasitexnikes, se oli tin eyropi, pou litourgoun me Laiki Vasi. Kai to zitoumeno einai ena:
DIAFANEIA - DIKAIOSYNH - EMPISTOSYNH - YPOSTIRIKSI

Ayta ta exeis mono otan ESY apofasizeis pios tha einai o ependitis sou. Prosekse, PIOS THE EINAI o ependitis sou.. Kai an isouna kai si enas ependitis, tha katalavenes giati se simferei na exeis 30.000 kosmo na se psifizei. Epeidi malon den eisai den katalaveneis.. Ase lipon ta tou Kokkali kai Tzigker kai an simferei aytous.

WWW.PAOK1926.GR tin erxomeni triti tha litourgisei, me poly iliko. Diavase kai sizitame.
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Re: LAIKH VASH: ENAS MYTHOS
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2006, 12:49:30 am »

Epeidi i sizitisi den vgazei pou8ena, ayto einai to teleytaio (Wink post pou kanw panw sto 8ema.
-H logiki tou oxlou emena den me ekfrazei. Exw krisi kai mporw na vgalw monos mou ta symperasmata mou. Kai me ti logiki sou, otan ir8e o mpatatoudis oloi panigirizane... Ektos an  itan lamogia.... Empistosini den exw ka8olou stous protergates aytis tis kinisis kai profanws den 8a tous ypostiriksw. Ayto simainei oti 8elw to kako tou paok? Kai stin teliki afou ypoti8etai oti exoume dimokratia, yparxoun adieksoda sti dimokratia? Ti paei na pei i moni lisi einai i laiki vasi? Kai poios 8a mpei mprosta stin teliki gia mia tetoia protovoulia, afou eipes prin oti oi mprostarides tou metwpou den exoun vlepseis gia tetoia? Yparxei kapoios "ependytis" me ton opoio exoun ginei epafes? H ola einai sto flou? Ali8eia, 30000 meli pou 8a ta vreis? Sti 8esaloniki? Edw oi 8esalonikeis kala kala den patane gipedo, 8a asxoli8oun me ta koina tou paok? Kai poios 8a sispirwsei ton kosmo? O zouraris i o tsarouxas? H mipws oi palemaxoi tou olympiakou kai tou pana8inaikou? Ola ayta emena mou vrwmane. Ton tziger giati na ton symferei na exei 30000 psifoforous? Ti ekane dld ston vazelo gia na ton psifisoun? Epeidi den exei omada tis prokopis kai 8elei na kleisei tous syndesmous tou vazelou 8a ton psifisoun? H epeidi exei kavouria stis tsepes? Kai ta meli tou kokali exoun meinei 28000 kai meiwnontai. Kai o gayros exei 7+2 prwta8limata pleon. Esy prwta8lima exeis na kinigiseis apo to prosfato 1991. Molis 15 xronia dld.
Min vazete pseytodilimata. O goumenos prepei na fygei ayto den alazei. Alla o tropos pou 8a fygei den einai kai den prepei na provaletai pws einai enas. Kai min sigrinete anomoies katastaseis, giati den vgazei se kalo.
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Re: LAIKH VASH: ENAS MYTHOS
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2006, 11:09:22 pm »

Prostheou sevomai pliros tis apopseis sou, alla tha mou epitrepseis kai mena na epimino stis dikes mou. Ta erotimata pou theteis theloun apantisi mias paragrafou to kathena. Isos stin epomeni ekdilosi laikis vasis den arnitheis tin prosopiki mou prosklisi na pame mazi, kai na pioume kai mia mpyra na ta poume..

Ayto pou mou ekane entiposi omos kai tha sxoliaso einai ayto pou eipes gia ton oxlo. Na sou ipenthimiso oti aytos o oxlos einai aytos pou kratise ton atitlo paok tosa xronia. Aytos o oxlos me ta mionektimata tou opos les,simfono, alla kai me tin terastia dinami tou, aytos o oxlos einai o paok file mou. Oute esy monos sou, oute ego. Alla kai oi dio mazi, me tis diafonies mas kai tis sizitiseis mas, emeis eimaste o oxlos. Kai an ayti ti stigmi kathomaste piso apo ena pc esy kai go kai milame kai grafoume gia ayti tin koloomada pou mas pligonei sinexeia, tin kapsoura mas, ton paok mas, to kanoume an mi ti allo gia na vgei kati thetiko..

Kali niki tin kiriaki stin omada mas aderfe mou... pros to paron, kai ta ksanaleme! Smiley
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Re: LAIKH VASH: ENAS MYTHOS
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2006, 09:25:57 pm »

apo tis 1/2 einai gegonos i istoselida tou metwpou laikis basis www.paok1926.gr edw mesa tha lithoun polles apories pou exete.
gine melos dwse telos
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Re: LAIKH VASH: ENAS MYTHOS
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2006, 10:51:29 pm »

aderfe mpika alla den leitourgri akoma?
Exei kana problima?
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Re: LAIKH VASH: ENAS MYTHOS
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2006, 11:31:51 pm »

aderfe egw mpainw twra k leitourgei
www.paok1926.gr gine melos dwse telos
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Re: LAIKH VASH: ENAS MYTHOS
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2006, 05:19:17 am »

nai leitourgei alla den mporeis na kaneis tipota diladi na mpeis na diabaseis tipota.
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Re: LAIKH VASH: ENAS MYTHOS
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2006, 07:47:49 am »

aderfe mporeis na diabaseis ta panta apo to site.

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Re: LAIKH VASH: ENAS MYTHOS
« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2006, 05:44:03 pm »

emeis pou eimaste apo eksoteriko pos kanoume?thelei kai dyo atoma nase protinoun.
Kai ta lefta ta dinoume ola gia olo to xrono?
Dieythinsi katoikias ama balo tis souhdias yparxei problima?
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Re: LAIKH VASH: ENAS MYTHOS
« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2006, 08:14:36 pm »

file obelix,

aposo ksero tin etisi sou ti dineis sti thyra 4 kai sou vazoun aytoi tis ipografes.
Leptomeries mporeis na rotiseis sto kinito til pou exei sto site tis laikis vasis paok1926.gr.
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Re: LAIKH VASH: ENAS MYTHOS
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2006, 03:37:52 pm »



Den ksero ti ilikia exeis file mou alla pistepse me exeis mperdeytei oson afora tous sindesmous. Paleotera, mporei o sindesmos na min energouse stin praksi gia ta diikitika tis omados, alla tote an kati pigene strava ekanes ena sialitirio, ekanes ena ntou, ta ekanes gialia karfia, ekeges kai kanena aytokinito proedrou, kai tote o anikanos proedros ekane tin papia... Tora ayta exoun perasei. H epoxi tis kotronas einai over. Tora iparxei i morfosi, o politikos logos, ta epixirimata, to internet, eksipnoi tropoi na mporeseis na exeis ta idia apotelesmata xoris na eisai paranomos kai kafros. Enas apo aytous tous logous odigisan tous sindesmous na mpoun kai na energisoun. GIATI AN ENAS A.S DEN EINAI GEMATO KOSMO, KAI PSIFIZOUN SE ENA DIOIKHTIKO SIMVOULIO MONO 50 ATOMA GIA TA KAFTA THEMATA TIS OMADAS TOTE O PAOK THA KATASTRAFEI.

nomizo to kalytero epixhrhma gia to oti panta oi syndesmoi mas eixan apopsh kai logo ston PAOK MAS .apla tora exei alaxei o tropos.

oi syndesmoi mas pote den htan mono <ekdotiria eisitirion> k <taxidiotika grafeia> .htan panta kati poly perisotero
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